From a fb comment thread:
Watching TLJ, I enjoyed the experience. I don’t remember getting up. I got up twice in Rise. Even the cinematography just isn’t as impressive, people talk about vistas, this one had some really shitty vistas. There were genuine moments of surprise in TLJ, contrast that with Rise where I could see every plot point coming and going, and none of them were surprising in a meaningful way. This is a film experience where I couldn’t shake the feeling of “this is a product,” for even a little bit.
I walked out of this movie filled with rage at the culture we’re living in now around movie studios. They want to let fans know that they heard their concerns, both the legit (Snoke = No One Important (in TLJ) is a reveal that asks more questions than it answers; the ending, where to go from there?) and the illegit (Purple Hair Woman in Charge! Wah!). They’re less concerned with telling the audience that they were wrong to be assholes about Holdo and they were wrong to harass Rose off social media b/c that might cut into their profits.
To solve the real problems posed by TLJ’s plot, they took the laziest writing way possible and said that every inconvenient thing was lies and that the Real Baddy this whole time has been the same Baddy and they don’t even hint at it in earlier installments of this trilogy. The Retcon of Skywalker is what this fucking movie should be called.
From a YouTube comment thread:
Between that* and the way they treat him in Rise, he’s vindicated AFAIC. btw I have a much harsher take than the boys here on Rise, I kind of hate it. I know that TLJ had problems, especially the writing problem of “what now?” but it feels like the Rise writers decided to scrap literally everything and call for a mulligan on Ep VIII, and then quickly push through two Episodes worth of plot. They didn’t have to be so Fuck You to him about it, that particularly feels like handing a win to the worst parts of the fandom.
*I am referring to a comment saying Knives Out, the new film by TLJ director Rian Johnson, was good; I haven’t seen it but I’ve heard good things.
The good reviews of Knives Out, my enjoyment of TLJ and his work on Breaking Bad, particularly Ozymandias, arguably the best episode of the series, leads me to believe that Rian Johnson is a good director. At the very least, we can’t say he’s a bad director, there’s just too much evidence to the contrary. There is probably a conversation to be had about the best kind of project for Rian to do, the right IP, the right kinds of limitations, etc. I mention limitations mainly because of the way he handled TLJ’s ending. The most ardent defenders have to admit it’s a difficult writing problem, and it seems like some limitations could have been set, or if there were concrete plot elements that were already planned through Eps VIII and IX, it might have turned out better.
TL;DR Rian Johnson is good.